LimeWire Problem

[xpgeek]

Been trying to figure this out on another forum too.

My problem :
I can't get Limewire, or Cabos, to connect at all no matter what I do for the last two days. I can't figure out why, its got access through my firewall. The only thing I can think of is it stopped working after I installed .Net Framework 2.0.

Responce :
Try uninstalling .net framework See if that works.

My responce :
I uninstalled .Net Framework 2.0, still don't work, uninstalled .Net Framework 1.1, uninstalled msn messenger, uninstalled a program named Rss Reader, thats everything I've installed in the last week. I uninstalled and reinstalled java, still don't work.

I've tried Limewire, Cabos, and Frostwire now. But I noticed something, the icon on the bottom of Limewire and Frostwire says its detected a Firewall, even if I shut down my firewall entirely and then try again, still says detected a firewall. Windows firewall not on I am sure. So what firewall ? Does this mean maybe my ISP has blocked it ?

Responce :
do u use a router?

My responce :
Nope no router.

Haven't gotten any more responces. I can't figure this out.

[Boeing_737]

Hi,

For what it's worth, here is a link (http://www.limewire.com/english/content/firewalls.shtml) to the Help and Support of Limewire.
It's about your problem I believe.

Edit: Limewire needs Java J2SE Runtime Environment installed.
.NET Framework is no problem with my Limewire.

[xpgeek]

I've got Java. That page just shows how to configure a firewall for it, I already know all that.

Its still detecting a firewall when there isn't even one there.

And, it was working fine just last week. The only thing thats changed on my end is the pc went from having no .Net frameworks installed at all to having 1.1, 1.1sp1, and a hotfix for 1.1, and 2.0, all installed.

So if its not my ISP blocking the gnuttella network somehow, blocking three different programs that use it, then something got messed up with something because it was working last week and its just not now.

[Boeing_737]

I see. Did you have a look here (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33712)? And here (http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=3dade71a6dee16368c692920772ccde0&threadid=51361)?

[Micron]

Mike

Have you tried using a proxy connection? there are loads free online, just change the settings in the options. Try here:

http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html

[xpgeek]

Thanks Boeing_737, your links helped alot. I guess that settles it. Optimum Online is on the list of ISP's known to block Limewire, thats my ISP.

Still weird how it wasn't blocked in my area as of last week and now is.

Oh well, don't really care that much. Can use a proxy if I wish I know, but oh well doesn't matter. Bit Torrent still works I know I just spent 6 hours downloading something with Bit Torrent yesterday. I only used Limewire maybe once a month for 5 minutes anway.

As long as Bit Torrent still works then I really don't care that much. The problem was just bugging me greatly because I couldn't figure out if it was a problem with my pc somehow.

[xpgeek]

But I will complain if they start blocking Bit Torrent too cause I actually download many legal files like podcasts and game demos with Bit Torrent too.

[Boeing_737]

I use Limewire Pro (no spyware!) to get my mp3-files and Azureus and BitComet for video. But the .torrents downloads will end sooner or later,
I have no doubts about it.

[xpgeek]

Nah i really doubt it.

The true P2P aps like Limewire will end I'm sure, because any judge with a couple brain cells can see that 99% of the files on em are illegal.

But every time they try to shut down bit torrent, they just say look at the facts. People use it for hosting gigantic Linux distro's for download, Adobe is using it now in some places for downloads of Photoshop, a lot of game companys are using it now for patches and demo downloads. Battlefield 2 has a major patch coming out this week or next, and its gonna be like a 4 or 500 meg download. Sure the company can afford to pay for all the bandwidth for the downloads itself, but why should it when it doesn't have to. It can offload most of the downloads onto bit torrent and save a fortune in bandwidth bills. That was the actual purpose of the bit torrent protocol in the first place and why it was created, to allow a company or person to offer a file to massive numbers of people without it costing them a fortune for bandwidth, cause the downloaders provide most of the bandwidth for other people downloading it, and it serves that purpose very well.

For an example, the thisweekintech podcast, is hosted on AOL radio servers for free as long as they say thanks to AOL in every episode, a few months back something happened and they couldn't host it that week, so Leo, the main host of the podcast, just threw it up on his own server. And even tho its also available on bit torrent, a lot of people just download it directly, I always do since its AOL futtin the bill, so a lot of people just downloaded it directly from Leo's server, which had like a 10 gigs a month bandwidth limit, and that limit was passed in a day and at the end of the month he got a 18,000 dollar bill for bandwidth.

So the main purpose of bit torrent is really to allow the mass downloading of a file without it costing a fortune. Theres a lot of podcasts and small game companys that simply couldn't afford to get their file to people without it. Theres even been rumors that Microsoft is someday thinking of having a Windows Update system based on bit torrent. And there was even a major project when SP2 came out for XP, it was SP2download.com or something like that, it wasn't a project by Microsoft, but its purpose was to show how useful bit torrent is for legal purposes, and it succeeded, there was something like 150,000 downloads of SP2 through the bit torrent tracker they hosted.

So I am confident that bit torrent will never be shut down. It can't be. Theres too many legal things that not only use it but actually depend on it too. Its easy to see and easy for record companys to prove that 99% of Limewire usage is illegal, but when it comes to bit torrent, theres more legal uses for it then there is illegal ones.

On another note, its not my pc and it is my ISP blocking it, because I just connected to Limewire with no problems before using a proxy. I feel bad about it, because I really do love my company, but its not like I use it that much even, and I don't think they should be allowed to dictate to me how I use the internet on a connection I pay 45 bucks a month for. I am paying them to provide me bandwidth and a connection to the internet, what I do with it is my concern, if I want to sit there and download a thousand songs on Limewire a day, I should be able to, and it will be my problem when I get sued by a record company for it, but they have no business preventing me from doing it in the first place.

[Boeing_737]

I can follow you all the way. But here in the Netherlands I participate in a kind of security investigation. (A rather small role though.)
Limewire delivered me a huge Adobe application with serial. Some weeks ago I received with BitComet the movie Jarhead, free.
I find that to be criminal, at heart.

The entertainment industry is at this very moment negociating with the larger producers of anti-virus an anti-spywaresoftware to find means
to exclude the kind of downloads I mentioned from their search engines.
How? I dont know, but my spokesman is a real insider, who I trust and believe. (It goes so far that in the US it already should be "working".)

In short, one way or the other, the sharing of multimedia for free will come to an end.
I have the activation and afterward validation of Windows XP in mind, for that matter.
I can't say I totally disagree. And maybe something of a validation will be added to the downloads you mentioned, I don't know.
But stealing from a rich guy, still makes me a thief is my feeling in this matters.

[xpgeek]

I just don't think it will ever really be stopped. It will always find a way. When one program or method totally disappears another new one will take its place. Its like spam, no matter what they do they'll never wipe it out entirely.

[xpgeek]

Woohooo they're not blocking it anymore.

They either, were just blocking it for a while in my area to reduce bandwidth through the servers while they upgraded em for 15mbit connections.

Or,

Since they are listed as an ISP known to block Limewire on the Gnuttela forums, and a friend of mine also with Optimum Online has had it unblocked suddenly too, they are not content filtering anything for people that sign up for the Optimum Boost package. If so they're not advertising that feature of the package, lol, but my friend lives in Long Island and has had Limewire blocked for a year and now its suddenly not now that hes got the Optimum Boost package too. I don't have the new modem and 30mbit speeds yet, but all the other features of Optimum Boost have already been turned on for my account, I can make my own site and register a free domain name now.

I guess they figure that people that get the 30mbit won't keep it for long when they realize they still can't use Limewire without a proxy. So anyway, woohoo its not blocked for me anymore.

[Boeing_737]

Good for you!

And about the "diminishing" parts of the lower bandwith contracts: knowing the policy's of the ISP's in general, I'm almost certain that somewhere - may it be in the written contracts or may it be somewhere on their website - one can find some kind of small print.

One should be looking for headings like: ...fair use policy... or ...it shall be at our discretion that...

But obviously you don't have to bother anymore...

Edit: I just forgot. At Limewire are (on some kind of timetable) to find attractive filenames with tricky sizes: instead of the (normal) amount of Mb's it's in Kb's.
A net-rookie with no antivirus program will be downloading some very bad files that way.
Who's to blame?

[xpgeek]

The person that downloads it I'd say. Geeks know Limewire is for single song music, and bit torrent is for absolutely everything else. But still, whether their reasoning was to stop illegal music downloading or protect people from themselves and getting virus's they thought were real program installers, I just don't think an ISP has the right to dictate to people that pay them money for a connection on what they can and can't do with it.

[jbloggs]

Lot of good information on P2P etc Here (http://www.slyck.com/index.php)