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wawadave
15-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Wow this is a new one on me!!
But the newer ones have hard drives in them. and those copying things like tax returns,divers license data etc. when they are thrown out there can be lots of sensitive data on those drives!!
A whole new thing for data miners to buy off ebay.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070313.wcopiers0313/BNStory/Technology/?cid=al_gam_nletter_dtechal

Techfreak
15-03-2007, 08:03 PM
when i used to work for my local copy shop our B&W copier had a scan function where we could save the job.

wawadave
16-03-2007, 03:48 AM
yes thats whats saved on there copiers. and many would have full hard drives sold or died and thrown out.

zimagirl79
16-03-2007, 04:00 AM
Never considered that. I work in a doctor's office where sensitive info is copied every day. We are constantly on alert to not violate the HIPPA laws dealing with privacy, but what if they decide to upgrade the copier? I'm certain ours is one that has a hard drive.

wawadave
16-03-2007, 04:07 AM
if its a standard type hard driveit can be pulled out and over writen by slaveing it to a regular computer and over write 35x .
but i don,t know if it would have an os on that drive too. out of my league. if it does then that would kill the copier. better dead then read. if being decomissioned.

in the artical it says some newer copiers have drive encryption and over write program. but thats not all according to that.

you may want to do some checking on your copier before you get a new one or send it out for repairs. as that could be brakeing hippa.

zimagirl79
16-03-2007, 04:09 AM
Thanks dave, I'll pass this info on to my employers.

FisionChips
16-03-2007, 08:37 AM
oooooooooooooooooo noooooooooooooo! The Christmas party year before last! I photocopied.....................

I was a bit on the tipsy side...



:oops: :wink: :)

Seriously, can't you just wipe the things using a hefty electromagnet?

xpgeek
16-03-2007, 10:13 AM
Now THIS is how you destroy a hard drive :twisted:

Do NOT try this at home ! lol

[flash width=400 height=326:746eca1335]http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-4147847319296070400[/flash:746eca1335]

Techfreak
16-03-2007, 02:21 PM
i gotta get me some Thermite :evil:

wawadave
17-03-2007, 12:36 AM
HTTP://www.Thermite.com (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2F&ei=sCn7Ra7hFo6SgAST2P2QDw&usg=__ffLFfRJO3daqTZOKN0io1OSQ8_s=&sig2=_INAf3sQ13txx5OiQxygjw)

Neo, Knock, Knock
17-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Destroy all those hard drives with a drill and 1/2" bit. Couple of holes and your done.

FisionChips
17-03-2007, 04:21 PM
Brillo applied to the surface works well too!

wawadave
17-03-2007, 04:58 PM
Destroy all those hard drives with a drill and 1/2" bit. Couple of holes and your done.

that would only kill the data actually contained in the area that was removed by the drill and only that area. and the rest is till available to any government budgeted type outfit.
or large cor-pirations,universities with proper research faculties any with electron scanning.
but does stop all others down the food chain.

Neo, Knock, Knock
17-03-2007, 04:59 PM
that is true, so drill many holes, lol

FisionChips
17-03-2007, 05:02 PM
rofl - disc ventilation!

wawadave
17-03-2007, 05:10 PM
the best lowtech legal ways are to take an angle grinder well wareing safety goggles and grind drive to atoms.
the other way is to use an oxyacetylene torch and completely melt drive to a puddle. many many holes will bring up the percentage of unatainable data but 1 square millimeter is 10 megs of info. so any areas of non holes is still readable. allso any drive over writen with data 1x over write is completely recoverable by low tech methods .
35x over write can be recovered by above mentioned people but at $20,000.00+ to do so very large drive very large cost etc.

Techfreak
18-03-2007, 03:50 PM
rofl - disc ventilation!
nah not vetilation it's speed hole to make the drive go faster :lol:

FisionChips
18-03-2007, 03:56 PM
lol rofl Turbo-charged data